Dec 22, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17
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#1
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Ascalonian Squire
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It's time for ANet to balance the snowball fights
It's been three years and they still haven't balanced the snowball fights. I'll set aside the fact that class skills in there aren't balanced since you can choose your class. But you can't choose what side your on, and avalanche is grossly overpowered when compared with yellow snow.
Let's break it down even though I can't imagine anyone that's ever played snowball fights will disagree with this.
Avalanche:
- AoE cripple in a game all about running
- 1 second cast time
- skill not glyph, this is very important because this means it doesn't overwrite the all-important hidden rock
Yellow Snow:
- disease is easily spread back to your own team, and running is usually much more important than fighting
- 2 second cast time, faster recharge but it's a...
- glyph, because this ability overwrites hidden rock it's basically never worth using
So someone on Dwayna can spend 1 second to AoE cripple their target, and then someone on Grenth can spend 2 seconds to remove it and lose their hidden rock. Will this major imbalance in the snowball fights ever be fixed?
Suggestions I can think of to buff yellow snow include: making Grenth's team immune to disease, decreasing cast time, and most importantly having it not overwrite hidden rock. Avalanche could easily be nerfed too, but I know most people prefer seeing buffs to nerfs. I personally don't care so long as something is done. Thanks for reading and I hope to see this finally addressed.
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Dec 22, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20
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#2
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Krytan Explorer
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Changing Avalanche to only cripple moving targets would be a good start I think.
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Dec 22, 2007, 04:24 AM // 04:24
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#4
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Ascalonian Squire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
Sorry, but this is a once-a-year FUN event. Makes me barf when people get all serious about it. JMO
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It would be a lot more fun if it were relatively balanced. Like I said, I'm ignoring all of the class imbalances and just pointing out the one major imbalance that players have no control over. It would be an easy fix.
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Dec 22, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34
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#5
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA
Profession: P/W
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The problem with things that require you to collaberate is the fact that you cannot balence intelligence ratios of morons.
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Dec 22, 2007, 04:53 AM // 04:53
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#6
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: R/
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1 second cast time on Yellow Snow. You can consistently and easily neuter Avalanche (and hidden rock daze), but you lose your hidden rock glyph whenever you do.
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Dec 22, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37
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#7
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]
Profession: D/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Be Vigilant
It's been three years and they still haven't balanced the snowball fights. avalanche is grossly overpowered
I personally don't care so long as something is done. I hope to see this finally addressed.
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Holy lord, this is hilarious.
Okay - which of you posters put this guy up to this?
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Dec 22, 2007, 06:10 AM // 06:10
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#8
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Canada
Guild: Eternal Transcendence [DRMR]
Profession: A/
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Grenths side more than makes up for it since Grenth is badass.
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Dec 22, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47
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#9
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Forge Runner
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It's a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing holiday arena. Just play it for a laugh.
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Dec 22, 2007, 07:05 AM // 07:05
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#10
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Textual Harassment [kTHX]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
It's a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing holiday arena. Just play it for a laugh.
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What he said.
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Dec 22, 2007, 07:24 AM // 07:24
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#11
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: May 2005
Location: NC
Guild: DKL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Be Vigilant
It's been three years and they still haven't balanced the snowball fights.
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This has been bugging you for 3 years??
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Dec 22, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39
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#12
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2006
Guild: Call to the Torment {CttT}
Profession: A/
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Can i just point out the fact that Guild Wars is a game and yet all of you QQ over your little farming nerfs because you enjoy earning money, well we enjoy the snowball tourney, and it just so happens it's imba, Now i suppor this in the fact that this goes towards a title, but i don't want avalanche nerfed because it isn't broken, just fix up yellow snow a bit and i'll be happy, at the moment the crips are irritating and a mediocre team can beat a good one if they're dwayna
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Dec 22, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20
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#13
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: A cave in the Shiverpeaks
Profession: Mo/
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Its just a silly arena meant to have fun.. but I still agree with the OP. Dwayna's team wins the vast majority of the times, and its just a simple balance between 2 skills.
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Dec 22, 2007, 08:26 AM // 08:26
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#14
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: Rt/
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what? yellow snow negates the avalanche and is the only condition removal available in snowball arena. not a bad deal if you ask me.
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Dec 22, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32
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#15
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Banned
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: United States
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it's truely sad when players start to say snowball fights are overpowered. It makes me wonder if they even know what they are talking about, I have an idea, lets get rid of skills all together and just use weapons, then nothing will be overpowered. Please people, some of you need to get a life, and learn to live with the reality that having varous skills makes the game challenging.
If you can not handle snowball fights, then I hate to say it, but YOU SUCK!!!
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Dec 22, 2007, 08:42 AM // 08:42
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#16
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Dwayna's Avalanche is superior to Grenth's Yellow Snow. If two teams are even close to evenly matched, Dwayna will win. It would be nice to see a simple balance to one or both of the skills.
I don't understand why so many people that don't play the snowball fights feel the need to post flames in this topic...
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Dec 22, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53
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#17
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Shadows of the Dragon
Profession: W/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Be Vigilant
It would be a lot more fun if it were relatively balanced. Like I said, I'm ignoring all of the class imbalances and just pointing out the one major imbalance that players have no control over. It would be an easy fix.
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Actually it would be more fun if people didn't freaking quit soon as the other team got 1 point. I've lost most of my matches cause of quitters, not becuase of "imbalance"
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Dec 22, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30
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#18
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
It's a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing holiday arena. Just play it for a laugh.
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- You can't be serious that something that has associated title could be non-competitive! People spend sleepless nights farming some stupid virtual items on other games. There's surfacing outcries that the grind should be reduced, because it's implicitly accepted truth that one has to and wants to achieve everything possible.
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Dec 22, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33
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#19
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ireland
Guild: Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2
Profession: E/
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serioulsy...it doesnt matter what side your on, teamwork is the key factor.
you may jsut aswell say that grenth is imba with is yellow snow, condition removal, in a game of snowballing your pretty screwed with daze.
these are balanced..and its for fun..
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Dec 22, 2007, 11:51 AM // 11:51
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#20
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: R/
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You know....you can both think that the game is really fun, AND want to make it better. Really and truly. I swear.
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